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too many trees in my non-perfect town

Ok, this is probably my bad for not laying patterns down to make the 16 square things...but when I tried this I did not know what to do about the cliffs, stream, etc....how many spaces do I count in my head if my path runs off a cliff?  How many  spaces is it across a river?    Or do I not include the stream or the cliffs in counting out the 16 pattern spaces?

My question is, if I don't use patterns, and a certain area is ok for trees, but when I add one tree, Pelly says, "there are too many trees in one area", do I have to plant more flowers to fix the tree/flower ratio in this area or should I start chopping down trees there?  I read somewhere that if you have a large number of trees in one area, you have to then have a larger number of flowers in the same area.  Is this right?


I have so many trees in my town, they are getting in the way.

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pirogoeth
Feb. 24th, 2009 07:07 pm (UTC)
2 spaces for the river...as for cliffs, I don't think they count as "spaces" since you can run the pattern up to the edge and start directly below it...I may be wrong though. :)
bubblebobble
Feb. 24th, 2009 07:15 pm (UTC)
we didnt use the patterns and maek acres either. we just had a shit load of flowers, the less trees the more flowers you need in that area.
karenbelle
Feb. 24th, 2009 07:22 pm (UTC)
So if I have the maximum amount of trees in a certain area, and a moderate- large amount of flowers there, it's ok to hack down 1 tree at time? How will I know when I get it right because, no matter what I do, Pelly keeps telling me there is not enough greenery in some areas.

I have filled in most of the empty looking spaces in town with a tree or a couple flowers, so don't know why Pelly says this/don't know where the problem is?

Maybe I am overcomplicating this... *grin*
bubblebobble
Feb. 24th, 2009 07:32 pm (UTC)
greenery usually means flowers in my experience. our difficult part was near the ocean, we didnt have many flowers down there. and its not jsut a certain area, it has to be 8(i think) acres perfect adn the rest great.
ooper67
Feb. 24th, 2009 08:07 pm (UTC)
yep, because near the ocean you only get like 9 or 10 spaces down, but I think you still need the same # of trees/flowers.
We had a lot of houses and rivers down there too, so it looked like the most crowded area by the time we were done.
bubblebobble
Feb. 24th, 2009 08:10 pm (UTC)
i just planted coconut trees along the shore. and flowers in between them lol
demembers
Feb. 24th, 2009 07:51 pm (UTC)
I did the perfect town and once I got the watering can I started lining my paths with flowers, and suddenly pelly started telling me that there was too many trees in some areas, so flowers and trees are technically considered the same thing, I'm sure if I asked the other one she would say too many flowers. And I didn't plant a single tree after that, only added flowers.

But one thing I did learn, is that they'll keep telling you there's too many trees if you have 19+ trees in an acre.

This guide really helped me as far as getting the right tree to flower ratio
http://accf.wikispaces.com/Perfect+Town
beansofdeath
Feb. 25th, 2009 04:34 am (UTC)
Are you sure you didn't plant a tree somewhere and forget about it? I've been adding flowers like crazy for weeks since I first attained perfect town status, and they haven't affected it at all.
demembers
Feb. 25th, 2009 04:45 am (UTC)
I'm positive I didn't plant even one tree. But there's some acres that have nearly 20 flowers, because as I said, I'm completely lining my paths with flowers. But I don't know, I haven't talked to the nighttime one, she could say that some need more greenery, because there is some that have none. All I know is the daytime one says there's too many trees.
karenbelle
Feb. 24th, 2009 10:34 pm (UTC)
Thanks
Hey, I really appreciate all of the comments...I will try what you guys suggested. :)
outherelistenin
Feb. 24th, 2009 11:40 pm (UTC)
To answer your main question, flowers won't help you overcome "too many trees". They're only good for addressing "too few trees" problems. Fortunately, it appears you can't have too many flowers.

I'm not a big fan of trees; they can make it hard to find weeds and dig spaces. I've got "perfect town" status, but I haven't planted more than five or six trees.

What I have done - and this has made me pretty happy - is buy and plant every single flower at Tom Nook's store, and do it daily.

I haven't laid down 16x16 square maps, and while this is a fine idea, I decided it was too much trouble for me. I just looked for "bald spots" - areas with no flowers or trees, and started my serious planting there, then moved on to other areas when I started to think, "...hm. Looks bare."

Part of what helped this process is that, when I replanted my standard trees with foreign fruit trees, I got in the habit of marking each one with a flower, so I could tell, while fruits were regrowing, which trees not to chop down.

A nice side effect of mad flower planting is that I got a lot of hybrids as a matter of course. Also, squares with flowers don't lose snow/grass as quickly, so the flowers are anchoring a lot of areas that I want to keep intact.
unipursalwomble
Feb. 25th, 2009 12:10 am (UTC)
This utility really helped me when I was mapping my town.

http://www.kurtboyer.com/guides/AnimalCrossingCityFolk/PerfectTown/

Once I could see where the boundaries between acres lay, I could more easily plan where to plant trees and flowers.

The tree/flower ratio is complex - initially one tree counts as two flowers, and you want to score 27 per acre ... but if you plant more than 12 trees, you need to increase the flowers beyond the 27 point total.

I'm sure if you google perfect town, you'll find a chart that tells you how many flowers you need for each acre, given the number of trees present.
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